At Cam's at Abbotsford Convent.
Tuesday, 8 August 2023
“The Siege of Krishnapur” by J.G. Farrell (October 6, 2021)
Some notes I took during our Zoom meeting
- restraint of Victorian England
- Satirical picture of colonialism and Victorianism
- Characters are likeable
- No heroes in the book
- it’s not post-colonial, not Slaman Rushdie or Vikram Seth
- Great Exhibition is used as a touchstone
- never gets lost in the detail
- Phrenology
- Magistrate condemning all the poetry
- Loved the way that the shells falling on the masonry caused all sorts of problems, when they fell on the earth was best, kind of showing the trappings of civilisation
- The only role of women was to go mad with boredom
- Rank hypocrisy of the the system in which their embroiled
- None of the Indian characters are very developed. This was discussed at length because it denies them a voice and an opinion about what is going on around them
- It really struck me that this was the pomposity of the colonialists
- Why isn’t Ballard better known?
- Victorians putting so much emphasis on the machines they build, exemplified by the World Fair
- The auction of the food was brilliant
- Fleury killing someone is the unbelievable part of the book
- Trenchant critique of colonialism portraying the the characters as being woefully shirt-sighted about the situation they’re in. Putting a spear through the omnipotent
- Discussion about UK versus US humour, Monty Python versus The Office (US), a comment about how in Animal House, John Belushi smashing the guitar of some wannabe musician who’s wowing the girls show the difference: in the US Belushi’s the hero, in the UK it’s the guitarist
- Wanted to ask the author about why things happened the way that they did
- Notable difference between the 70’s (when the book was written) and (say) 1985 when Haneef Kureshi’s “Buddha of Suburbia” was written. It feels like a world of difference between the two world views — the difference between seeing Indians as “other” as compared to a part of society
- Watching the colonial oppressors getting their just desserts
Saturday, 2 October 2021
“The Mothers” by Brit Bennett (September 1, 2021)
We’re back in lockdown again so that means we’re back on Zoom.
While I didn’t mind book, for one of the first times I wasn’t able to finish it due to pressing work commitments. I got about halfway through. It didn’t help that we’d gone into lockdown again and the book is a challenging read, the protagonist has an abortion and her mother commits suicide before we’re twenty pages in.
Matt made a very good point that really challenged the consistency of the book’s world: the protagonist’s boyfriend who has got the young woman pregnant borrows the money from her parents for the abortion. He found that very difficult to imagine and I tend to agree.
Without having finished the book it doesn’t seem fair to write much more.
We have a slightly longer book next month, J.G. Farrell’s The Siege of Krishnapur. Hopefully we’ll be back at The All Nations but I suspect it will probably be Zoom again, see you on October 6 in any case.